{"id":146442,"date":"2024-12-29T06:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-12-29T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/acousticguitar.com\/?p=146442"},"modified":"2024-12-29T11:48:49","modified_gmt":"2024-12-29T19:48:49","slug":"inside-the-songwriting-and-guitar-craft-of-gillian-welch-and-david-rawlings","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/acousticguitar.com\/inside-the-songwriting-and-guitar-craft-of-gillian-welch-and-david-rawlings\/","title":{"rendered":"Inside the Songwriting\u00a0and Guitar Craft of Gillian Welch and David Rawlings"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>W<em>oodland, <\/em>the new album by Gillian Welch and David Rawlings, takes its name from Woodland Sound Studios in East Nashville, a place with deep significance to the duo. Back in the \u201970s, Woodland hosted sessions for albums like the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/41K4BNj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Will the Circle Be Unbroken<\/em> <\/a>and Neil Young\u2019s <em><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4fC45EA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Comes a Time<\/a> <\/em>that helped lay the groundwork for what eventually became known as Americana\u2014and for Welch and Rawlings\u2019 own musical world. In the mid-\u201990s, Welch and Rawlings recorded their debut, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3Bu3NSb\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Revival<\/a>,<\/em> at Woodland with producer T Bone Burnett. In 2002, Welch and Rawlings purchased the studio, which was shuttered following a dispute over damage from a tornado, and brought it back to life. But then in early March 2020, they nearly lost Woodland, and all its instruments and recording archives, when the building took yet another direct hit from a tornado\u2014just a few weeks before the Covid pandemic broke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Out of these strange and trying times, and from the rebuilt studio, comes Welch and Rawlings\u2019 first set of new original songs since 2017<em>. <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/3BCWCHk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Woodland<\/a> <\/em>both extends and deepens their 30-year quest to create new music with the clarity, economy, and staying power of traditional folk. While half the album features band backing and even some string arrangements by Rawlings, at the core of the music\u2014as always\u2014is the extraordinary braiding of their voices and acoustic guitars.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During the lead-up to the album release, I caught up with Rawlings and Welch in separate conversations to learn more about the writing and recording of their latest songs, and the vintage guitar discoveries that helped shape them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"819\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1994.jpg?resize=1024%2C819&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Rawlings and Welch with Paul Kowert on bass at the 2024 Newport Folk Festival. Photo:  Emilio Herce\" class=\"wp-image-146450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1994.jpg?resize=1024%2C819&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1994.jpg?resize=500%2C400&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1994.jpg?resize=768%2C614&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1994.jpg?resize=300%2C240&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1994.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rawlings and Welch with Paul Kowert on bass at the 2024 Newport Folk Festival. Photo: Emilio Herce<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Tuning Up at Home<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>In the aftermath of the tornado, which left Woodland with collapsed ceilings and major flooding, Rawlings devoted himself to salvaging the studio. \u201cI\u2019ve been in this building for 14 to 16 hours a day for the last five years,\u201d says Rawlings, speaking on a summer afternoon from Woodland, on a break from cutting lacquers for the album\u2019s vinyl master. \u201cI mean, really nowhere else, literally every single day.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>During this lengthy rehabilitation, and the pandemic pause in Welch and Rawlings\u2019 touring life, they realized that their writing and music needed to continue. \u201cWhen we bought Woodland, we were both over there, pulling wire and installing the control room glass and putting it all together,\u201d Welch recalls. \u201cBut this time around in the reconstruction from the tornado, it was really Dave. We decided to divide and conquer. So he would go over there, and I would stay at the house and write. And when he would knock off and come home, we would work on whatever I had done that day.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This division of labor worked well because of the difference in their writing styles, she says. \u201cI\u2019m more the sit-on-the-couch-for-six-hours, meditative sort of writer, and he\u2019s the five-minutes-brushing-his-teeth-in-the-bathroom writer. Certain people would perhaps be jealous that he works so much faster. But really, I enjoy the meditative aspect of the work I do. I mean, what else would I want to do? I really like sitting on the couch with my guitar.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-embed-handler wp-block-embed-embed-handler wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Gillian Welch and David Rawlings on World Cafe (Full Interview &amp; Performance)\" width=\"1290\" height=\"726\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/uwUoej-nm6I?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The long breaks from the road in recent years brought Welch and Rawlings unexpected benefits\u2014especially more singing in the living room than they had done since first moving to Nashville, before their first record. \u201cYou know, when you put out a record and start to have success, most of your singing starts to be done in public,\u201d Welch says. \u201cI love singing from the stage\u2014it requires its own sort of musculature. But I really believe there are things you only learn singing and playing with nobody listening to you in your own living room.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She adds, \u201cDave and I have always been close enough to chamber music that, in a way, the more important subtleties are in the air between what I\u2019ll call our four instruments\u2014two guitars and two voices. I feel like we got recalibrated and more in tune with those sounds. I think maybe it was time for a tune-up.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1017\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?resize=1017%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"The duo in Woodland Sound Studios, their home base in East Nashville. \u00a9 Alysse Gafkjen 2024\" class=\"wp-image-146451\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?resize=1017%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1017w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?resize=497%2C500&amp;ssl=1 497w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?resize=768%2C773&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?resize=298%2C300&amp;ssl=1 298w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/061124_DG_AG_192crop.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1017px) 100vw, 1017px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">The duo in Woodland Sound Studios, their home base in East Nashville. \u00a9 Alysse Gafkjen 2024<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Two for One<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Like their last studio release, the Grammy-winning covers collection <em>All the Good Times (Are Past and Gone), <\/em>the <em>Woodland<\/em> album is credited to Gillian Welch and David Rawlings\u2014a departure from years of billing themselves on record with her name alone. Along the way there have been projects where Rawlings has top billing and the vocal spotlight\u2014like the band-oriented David Rawlings Machine records or <em>Poor David\u2019s Almanack<\/em> from 2017. According to Rawlings, the change to using both of their names on <em>All the Good Times<\/em> and <em>Woodland<\/em> reflects the simple fact that, unlike on earlier records, they are splitting lead vocals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&nbsp;\u201cI didn\u2019t think it would really work to put out a Gillian Welch record and then have me singing a couple songs on it, you know?\u201d he says. \u201cWe\u2019re coming out of the tradition of singer-songwriters where the person whose name is on there is generally who\u2019s singing.\u201d He adds with a laugh, \u201cI don\u2019t know of any Bob Dylan tracks where Neil Young sings.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Billing the duo under two names does not signify a difference in how they collaborate, however. \u201cWe\u2019ve written songs every which way, but I wouldn\u2019t say the overarching structure has changed much,\u201d Rawlings notes. And the goal remains the same.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI mean, we always aspire to figure out how to write better songs,\u201d he says. \u201cYou can look around and see the things people are doing or have done that are so great and that you admire so much, and you want to try to figure out how to contribute to that body of work. It takes a lot of thought and care to even dip your toe in that water or come close. So I feel like songwriting is a job that you never finish, and there\u2019s a lot of mystery in how you get the very best stuff\u2014and also a lot of plain old hard work that you do.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Woodland <\/em>adds some gems to the duo\u2019s repertoire that came to life in varied ways. \u201cEmpty Trainload of Sky,\u201d the minor-key folk rocker that kicks off the album, grew from its title phrase and the arresting image of \u201ca boxcar of blue showing daylight clear through.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The song began with \u201calmost a vision,\u201d Welch recalls. \u201cI was taking a walk, and I really did see the evening freight train going over the Cumberland River trestle. And I had a really dislocating moment where these boxcars looked like they were full of sky. It literally stopped me in my tracks, and I couldn\u2019t figure out what I was seeing. It was just a super surreal moment. I sat down on the bench right there, and I didn\u2019t get up until I had the title and the beginning of the song. I just drilled it into my mind. When I got home, I told Dave about it, and we were off to the races writing a song together.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cHashtag,\u201d sung by Rawlings, is dedicated to Guy Clark\u2014though he isn\u2019t named in the lyrics. Several years before Welch and Rawlings put out their first record, the legendary troubadour brought the duo as openers on a national tour.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt would be hard to overstate what that experience meant,\u201d says Welch. \u201cI think our whole notion of what it was going to mean to have a life in music came from that time. That\u2019s when we really saw, what does it look like if you devote your life to this? What does that mean you\u2019re doing? Well, that means driving up and down the interstates all over the place, and you get to know them. Now, this was before GPS and before cell phones. Guy would tell us what was important\u2014where to stop and get lunch between Houston and Dallas, what hotels to stay in. That was the first glimpse that we had of what life on the road was really like.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"'Woodland' by Gillian Welch and David Rawlings album cover artwork.\" class=\"wp-image-146454\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?resize=1024%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?resize=500%2C500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?resize=768%2C768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?resize=300%2C300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/Woodland_cover.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Tapping into Tradition<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Close followers of Welch and Rawlings\u2019 music will notice that one track on <em>Woodland,<\/em> \u201cLawman,\u201d is a completely rewritten version of a song they performed 15-plus years ago but never recorded.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The new \u201cLawman\u201d opens with the line \u201cSylvie gonna bring a little water\u201d\u2014a clear nod to Lead Belly\u2019s \u201cBring Me a Little Water, Silvy.\u201d I ask Welch whether they consciously look for these sorts of echoes of older songs, a common occurrence in their writing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI think they just kind of come out,\u201d she says. \u201cYou try to put enough language and imagery into the hopper, and then they all combine in different ways and attach to whatever you\u2019re trying to express in the moment. Folk music is such a deep well, I\u2019d be a fool not to use it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThat\u2019s one of the things I love about working in the continuum of folk music, which Dave and I are now part of. I just love the way traditional language comes to my rescue when I need it. It\u2019s very rich for me. We\u2019re always trying to make a very simple statement multilayered, multidimensional. For me, that\u2019s really the pinnacle of what we\u2019re trying to do. I want this very simple thing to be both small and enormous simultaneously.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I ask Welch whether achieving that simplicity means leaving a lot on the cutting room floor in the writing process.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cSometimes they just come out that way\u2014like the chorus of \u2018Miss Ohio\u2019 came out that way, like a little nursery rhyme almost,\u201d Welch says. \u201cBut other times, I use the eraser more than the pencil, always trying to get to the beautiful feeling that is so common in the best folk songs, where they\u2019re eminently specific and yet endlessly universal. That\u2019s what we\u2019re shooting for. That\u2019s what really moves us. I mean, it moves me beyond speech when I hear, like, \u2018Dark was the night, cold was the ground.\u2019 It\u2019s just profoundly beautiful, not to mention the music.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>She adds, \u201cThere\u2019s really nothing I feel or see or care to express that seems to fall outside of the ability of folk music to contain. It never lets me down. And the more years that have gone by, and the more big human experiences I\u2019ve had, like the death of both my parents, I find that there is nothing folk music won\u2019t take. It\u2019s there for humans; it\u2019s made human size. It was made to deal with catastrophic occurrences, both personal and global. It was made to help people deal with the world, and I\u2019m just so happy that it still works.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"819\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1197.jpg?resize=819%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Dave Rawlings\u2019 1935 Epiphone Olympic. Photo: Emilio Herce \" class=\"wp-image-146452\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1197.jpg?resize=819%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 819w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1197.jpg?resize=400%2C500&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1197.jpg?resize=768%2C960&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1197.jpg?resize=240%2C300&amp;ssl=1 240w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/DSCF1197.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 819px) 100vw, 819px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rawlings\u2019 1935 Epiphone Olympic. Photo: Emilio Herce<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>The Guitar Landscape<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Listening to <em>Woodland, <\/em>I am struck anew by the stunning clarity of their guitar work, with Welch laying down supple, understated rhythm while Rawlings adds cross-picked fills and cascading leads on top. The guitars each have their own space\u2014in terms of tone, texture, and often register too.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One striking guitar moment on <em>Woodland<\/em> comes in \u201cThe Bell and the Birds,\u201d where Rawlings plays a haunting harmonics riff over Welch\u2019s minor-key fingerpicking. I ask Rawlings whether they tend to find parts like these during the writing process, or in a later stage of guitar arranging.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cSometimes Gill will have a part that is developed as the song is being written,\u201d he says. \u201cI think when she started \u2018The Bells and the Birds,\u2019 her fingerpicking part came first, in which case that part is baked in.\u201d Rawlings\u2019 harmonics riff came as a literal response to the lyrics: \u201cListen how the bells they ring in the morning\/ What do they say to you my love?\u201d He says, \u201cI\u2019d always had a desire to do more stuff with harmonics, using a little more dissonance with them. That starts with minor second harmonics\u2014that\u2019s an interesting sound.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With other songs, it might take the duo a while after the basic music and lyrics are in place to find the right instrumental setting. With the album closer, \u201cHowdy Howdy,\u201d Rawlings notes, \u201cWe were enjoying the lyric and the melody in the way it felt, but we didn\u2019t really have a good way to play it. We were just really fighting with making it something we cared about deeply\u2014until I suggested that Gill try it on banjo. I literally remember saying, \u2018This will never work, but why don\u2019t we just try it on the banjo\u2014maybe do it out of sawmill tuning\u2019 [G D G C D]. As soon as she played three notes, I\u2019m like, \u2018OK, it\u2019s good. I\u2019ll figure out some guitar to fall in with that.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Across the album, Rawlings delivers beautiful fill\/lead work, with his trademark close intervals and touches of dissonance, harp-like effects, and unexpected note choices\u2014he remains one of the most distinctive lead guitar stylists in the acoustic music world. (For a lesson on his guitar work, see the December 2017 issue.) Less prominent but foundational to their sound is Welch\u2019s rhythm playing, which is so in the pocket yet also breathes, keeping human rather than metronomic time.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a guitarist, Welch says her job in the duo is \u201cto expand the space as much as I can. Considering how small our band is, one of the ways we expand is into quietness, air, space. One of the parameters is total silence, you know? I would never want to fill up the space, so I\u2019m not much of a strummer. I try to parcel out the guitar into the downbeats, bass notes, backbeats, the booms and the changs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s also my job to keep the groove but not let things get static. I\u2019m the drummer. I love the drums\u2014I played the drums as a child. It was Karen Carpenter who got me interested in drumming, but it was too loud for me. I was kind of a sensitive kid, and I just didn\u2019t want to make that much noise. So I asked for an acoustic guitar.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Welch\u2019s notion of expanding the space with her guitar relates directly to her<br>goal with language\u2014making small things suggest larger things.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThis runs through what Dave and I do, a kind of inherent magic trick of the miniature,\u201d she says. \u201cThere\u2019s something almost reality-altering in minimalism, and if you dive into it enough, it can become panoramic. That\u2019s when we know we\u2019re on the right path. You start to be able to see into a track and kind of inhabit it, get in there and have it all around you, even though it\u2019s this very small thing with just two acoustic guitars.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"643\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?resize=643%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"DAve Rawlings\u2019 rare 1949 Epiphone Emperor Concert. Photo: George Aslaender-Retrofret Vintage Guitars\" class=\"wp-image-146453\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?resize=643%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 643w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?resize=314%2C500&amp;ssl=1 314w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?resize=768%2C1222&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?resize=188%2C300&amp;ssl=1 188w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?resize=965%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 965w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/acousticguitar.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/11\/1949-Epiphone-Emperor-Concert.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 643px) 100vw, 643px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Rawlings\u2019 rare 1949 Epiphone Emperor Concert. Photo: George Aslaender\/Retrofret Vintage Guitars<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Vintage Voices<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>For many years, Welch and Rawlings have created their signature sound on the same guitars: a 1956 Gibson J-50 flattop for Welch and a 1935 Epiphone Olympic archtop for Rawlings. Both guitars are on <em>Woodland<\/em> (and Rawlings played another Olympic from the same year on \u201cThe Bell and the Birds\u201d), but the album also features some other notable instruments.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On \u201cLawman\u201d and \u201cWhat We Had,\u201d Rawlings played a rare recent acquisition: a 1949 Epiphone Emperor Concert built for jazz guitarist Johnny Smith with a trapezoidal soundhole, one of only three known examples of this model. \u201cJohnny Smith\u2019s idea was that if you didn\u2019t put f-holes, and you put a bigger soundhole near the fingerboard, you could have the braces go the full length of the instrument without breaking them,\u201d Rawlings says.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On \u201cLawman,\u201d Rawlings played the Emperor in dropped-D tuning (capo IV) above Welch\u2019s fingerstyle part. \u201cGill\u2019s guitar is kind of in the midrange,\u201d he says. \u201cThat Epiphone goes below it and above it, and it gave us a really big guitar sound. It\u2019s different than anything we\u2019ve done.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another vintage find on the album, played by Welch, is a 1940 Gibson J-35 previously owned by Ed Bruce, writer of \u201cMamas Don\u2019t Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Cowboys.\u201d \u201cIt is a crusher,\u201d Welch says. \u201cSome of the songs on this record were written on that guitar. I found it really inspiring.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On <em>Woodland<\/em> she also played her first steel-string guitar, a 1986 Guild D-25M; a rosewood 1929 Gibson Nick Lucas Special that she got from Normal Blake; and a mahogany 1929 Martin 2-17 (heard on \u201cHere Stands a Woman\u201d).\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThat is a freaky guitar,\u201d she says of the Martin parlor. \u201cIt is our most miniaturized. It barely makes any noise. But through a microphone, it almost sounds like you have an upright bass with you. It goes so low. It has ancient strings, probably from the \u201950s. One broke one time and Dave knotted it back on. So it\u2019s a crazy guitar, but it\u2019s truly magic. I\u2019ve never heard another guitar that did what that little Martin does.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Rounding out the <em>Woodland<\/em> instrumental lineup are two vintage banjos: Rawlings played a 1928 Vega guitar banjo on \u201cLawman,\u201d and on \u201cHowdy Howdy,\u201d Welch picked a 1925 Vega Whyte Laydie #7.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Growing from the Roots<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Over the last 30 years, Welch and Rawlings\u2019 commitment to the acoustic duo format has never wavered, but the scene surrounding them has changed dramatically. Compared with the \u201990s, many more younger musicians, it seems, are exploring stripped-down acoustic styles, inspired in no small part by Welch and Rawlings; and these days all musicians in the folk\/country\/roots realm benefit from the emergence of Americana as an industry and marketing umbrella.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I ask Rawlings for his perspective on the growth of acoustic Americana\u2014and the duo\u2019s part in it. \u201cYou know, that music was there even when we started,\u201d he says. \u201cWhen we came to Nashville and got our first booking agent, Keith Case and Associates, he represented John Hartford, Townes Van Zandt, Guy Clark. Norman Blake was out there playing shows. When we went to MerleFest, we realized there might have been a little bit of a generation gap, but the music was always there. It just was just a little more compartmentalized.\u201d Still, he\u2019s gratified to see how the scene has blossomed. \u201cI\u2019m really happy that people like this kind of music, and it\u2019s not as hard to find.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Welch, too, is struck by how much more visible acoustic folk has become since their early days. She does worry about the ability of artists to make viable careers, due to the Internet-era predicament that she and Rawlings articulated so powerfully back in 2001 with the song \u201cEverything Is Free.\u201d But the music itself, she notes, is strong.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIf we had any part in the resuscitation of the beauty of acoustic music, that\u2019s just a great honor,\u201d Welch says. \u201cWe just do what we do, because these are the sounds we like. I really dig the scene that\u2019s around these days. I feel like there\u2019s a lot of room for people to make music they like. 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